I'm shooting like 68 ish pounds with a 29 inch draw and the arrows are 27.5 inches, I checked on the beman website and i am right on the line in terms of spine, so i think you guys might be right. Like i said i don't think its a tuning problem because even if it was out of tune the point of impact would be off but the arrows would still group...i think so anyways. I don't think its a form issue because each individual arrow groups fine, just no where near where the other arrows are grouping. I'm going to play with them a little more today and if i still can't get them right i am going to go to my bow shop this weekend and figure out a set up that will work. Thanks again guys