Don't forget to offer to do some work around the place to help them ... I have gained access that way in the past... Also , look for KEY words like USUALLY, that could give you and in road...They say ... we don't usually let folks hunt here....andYou could say ....

I understand, but If I am allowed , I would be bowhunting only, I could share the meat with you and I could possibly do some chores for you to help you out.... and make sure you let them know that you would most certainly be respectful of their property and not bring others hunting with you , or at least not without their permission.

The words Usually, or I haven't in the past ,can lead to open doors.... listen to their words.... But if they then say no, smile and tell them thank you for their time... and the owners may talk about you after you leave and decide totell that nice young man he can hunt, the next time they see you....

You have to come and leave on the best of terms.... make a great impression.

MET