Thats funny guys, but I guess the one thats going to be shown at the Pennsylvania Deer Farming association's convention in altoona in Sept is a fraud? I must have made up the fact the guy shot it on his property put it in his chest freezer and is waiting to call the PA GC bluff. Okay sorry, your right I made it all up. Im part of the the problem? haha ok. I know what a healthy deer herd is and we dont have one in PA. If we did is all the ruckus bull****? Guess so! Tell you what, ill let you guys chat it up! You guys obviously know the most about SE PA. Cheers to ya.