PA - I am not totally against what you are saying but you can't just call the GC and get a depredation permit, there has to be reasons. Also there may not be as many deer but ,as you stated, they are in tighter areas which causes the density to go through the roof. I have lost hundreds of acres in the past few years due to expansion, so I know where you are coming from, but I have an organization like you. Nothing I can do about it, so I focus on what I can change/ gain access to, etc.