Its kinda funny how Jeff (GMMAT) gets on a tear for people who post on Rage heads that have never used them. He always says that your input is horse **** if you've never used them before. Same goes for this Jeff, your input here is really horse **** as well being you have no clue what so ever what bear hunting or baiting is about. You can't stand it that people can bait for bears and its more the norm and excepted. It drives you nuts! Sorry, but thats the only way possible in certain areas of the country to harvest a bear by the use of bait whether you like it or not.