In all honesty, those are some CHEAP BH's. Now the Titanium Sabre's I have are actually pretty good. I also have some of the Tri-Loc's I picked up for $4 a 3 pack, and those sonsobitches won't tune for nothing. The Titanium Sabre's fly right next to my ST's, but those other things are as bad as the old "Allen" broadheads.