Thanks to both of you. You were both very helpfull. After reading the hunting digest again, your explanation about the muzzloader permit makes a lot of sense. Now I just have to wait and see if I get a permit and then decide if I want to use the T/C in-line or the 12ga mossberg. Im leaning towards the T/C. I can reach out an extra 50 yards with it. Man, I sure hope I get atag. Thanks again!!!!!!!