Jeff you mentioned something to me about how many mature deer I have taken with my bow and said none. The truth is I don't know, I have never aged one and don't know how. I would guess the biggest deer I have taken with a bow is not mature, but he is the biggest I have taken with a bow. I have taken more than one with a gun, and yes they were big bucks in my eyes. This is the biggest I have taken with a bow. I doubt he is at his prime.