I have never taken a mature buck with my bow. Have I killed bigger bucks with my bow than you, yeh I have, but they were not mature bucks, just bigger than the mature deer you killed. If it's not that big of deal to you then Im fine with that, I just assumed that you would like to kill bigger bucks being that you like to hunt mature bucks. Again, if it's age that challenges you and you go by age more than rack, then who is anyone to tell you that is wrong, Im certainly not. I honestly didn't know that antler size had nothing to do with the way you hunt. So in your woods if a spike is 3.5 -4.5 he's going down?? I don't mean that in a smart ass way Jeff, Im seriously asking you.