Thanks JW, that will be my next move...Thought I would give it a shot here first, unfortunately the property (region)that I am hunting is 99.9% rocks and hills, so planting is virtually impossible...We do have some live springs and really thick cedar breaks thatI think helps but they seem to come and go, I guess I will start with the feeders and put them in areas of the ranch that we don't hunt to keep from disturbing the areas...Again, thanks for all the recommendations, I guess it is just a tough region to help too much!!!