vmartin,I hear ya....Unfortunately putting new ground under my turkeys that do come and go isn't an option. I really like hunting that region as all the exotics that run around free range. I suppose I am looking more for ideas to hold the turkeys on our piece of property. I may just have to do without the turkeys,I have been thinking of setting up some ground style feeders centrally located throughout the ranch and keeping them full of maze...I guess we will see, I have a couple of these type feeders and will put them out next month to try and keep them around.....