tribal - i can relate.I still have access to my old honey hole, but it's changed. no more corn/beans in the area and the deer have vacated. now it's just houses and empty lots. I used to see mature bucks quite often and i used to get tons of pics of mature bucks. Now, i've only seen2 mature bucks in the last 4 years (both at ripley!) and haven't gotten a pic of a mature buck in about 5 years on that property!!! That is why I will continue to apply for ripley. it's THE highlight to my deer season, every year. yes, the negatives are well known, but it's a blast.[/align]