It really depends on the range. At slam dunk range I snug it right up in the pocket or lower. Beyond 20I fall off it a bit... about 2-3 inches. Under 20 I'll drive through the shoulder if I happen to make an absolutely terrible shot. That's happened a couple times. One was a total pass through. The other hit the offside shoulder and stopped.... but the deer fell within sight. Slam dunk, I snug it up and let 'er fly.