i understand, i use to be a hardcore dog hunter (about 23 years of it). dog hunting was fun but i enjoy still hunting more and i definately kill more deer still hunting than dog hunting. it just got to be too much of a pain in the azz to dog hunt public land with all the new restrictions and people stealing your dogs. i'll still go and run dogs a couple times a year with friends that dog hunt but 99% of the time you'll find me in a tree.