I find the answers where the folks embellish their " energy numbers" with some substance and qualification are really more meaningful and interesting.

45 caliber - 405 grain bullets; 300 ft lbs for deer, 500 for bear, and 800 for elk; and deep penetrating also -- that one NEEDS some explaining -- what is the weapon? pistol, black powder, slingshot, or overhand pitch? OR were we talking the " pounds" of body weight of the animal and not foot pounds of energy at impact?

Never Go Undergunned,
EKM