I refuse to surround myself with those types of hunters either, bow or gun. I don't think you fully understood what I was saying. For example, I am getting to the point where I cringe at the thought of going to one of my local Pro Shops because what I end up listening to from other supposed "hunters" is pure bow hunter elitist crap, it's enough to make you sick. I do my thing, get my range time in and leave. From listening to these jokers you'd swear that the only "real" hunting was done with a bow. Pure BS from narrow minded, uneducated, uninformed, unlearned know-it-alls who do nothing but give a black eye to not only bow hunters but all hunters in general.
I 100% agree BigJ. I don't put myself in them situations anymore and go to these places. It makes me sick listening to these guys brag about taking there 50+ yard shots and thinking there the "Man" for doing it. There not a "Man" to me, more like a person who needs to get his stuff together and learn how to hunt instead of shoot! Bow hunting from what people use to do is way beyond what people do now, I don't care for it one bit so I don't put myself in that position anymore, you should do the same if you don't want to hear it!
I see it here as well, hardly a week goes by where someone isn't spouting off about how gun hunters are slobs and bow hunting is the cat's meow because you have to get up close, hold your fire till you see the whites of their eyes and whisper sweet nothings into the deers ear before letting the arrow go. By making statements like that, done with the explicit intent to put down gun hunting and bolster what obviously is a self esteem that is in dyer need of a boost it only perpetuates to rift between the two styles of hunting further dividing hunters as a whole.....And for what? so someone can sit up on their high horse and proclaim to the world that the way they hunt is the hardest and most challenging and only the most skilled of hunters can do it therefore vicariously elevating themselves into the "super hunter" status.
Gun seasons in certain places are better/worse then other places. My neck of the woods most are slobs and could care less about anything. Up where my dad lives in Northern Minnesota its a completely different story. They take pride in there deer hunting up there, I wish more were like that around my place. The gun hunters in my area feel this way also, they don't care to be out in the havoc but they have no choice being they only have a 2 week season for slug hunting. I feel for allot of the people who take there hunting serious but at the same time they have to put up with the idiots of the sport.
I don't think we need the gun seasons to control the deer populations, I think we need it so hunters can get out and enjoy the great past time that is hunting. You make it sound like once the population is controlled by them "mouth breathing cretin gun shooters" us "hunters" can go about our business. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it that way but go back and re-read your sentence. You've pretty much relegated and lowered gun hunters to "population control specialists" only serving the purpose of keeping the herd numbers in line....for the real hunters. Again, I don't think you meant it that way but it sure came off like it.
Again your way off with me but I'm starting to get use to that in this thread.
My phone is ringing off the hook during gun season to go out and help the gun hunters that I know and some I don't to help them out in a track job. Many friends of mine tote a shotgun around for deer hunting, most of these guys are quality hunters. I BS with these guys about hunting story's just like the folks who hunt with a bow, actually I talk more with guys who use a gun being bow hunting isn't nearly as popular as it once was. I don't dislike gun hunters one bit, I just can't stand the gun hunters that are "slobs" around my area which there is plenty of them. What I said is true that gun hunting keeps the population in control. Big deal if I said that, its the truth. Yes there's so much more to it then just that but I was stating a very important fact. When my cousins get together for slug season its neat as hell watching them interact with each other on the story's and the BSing, I love it! Ease your sensitivity button down a bit, your ego might be taking a hit otherwise.[8D]
Don't fool yourself Schultzy that's the main reason why this junk verbiage is passed around like candy on Halloween, so folks can say "look at me, I'm the great bow hunter". Half the guys at the Pro Shop I shoot at, I think only bow hunt for bragging rights and could care less for the real hunting bliss bow hunting offers
Again quit putting yourself in that position BigJ. You don't need to hear it, the hell with them guys. I've heard it too and I no longer go to these places. My back yard does the trick.
Yes gun hunters are guilty as well for some of the nastiness that spews out like a septic tank overflown but from what I've seen and read over the years it pales in comparison to the elitist "better than thou" attitude coming from the bow hunting camp.
This may be true where you live and or read in a bow hunting forum of some sort but Its the farthest thing from it where I live. I don't care for people like this whether there shooting a gun or bow, It don't go in my book. Its jealousy on both sides when you hear the stupid "I'm better then you" comments coming from both bow and gun hunters. It will never go away BigJ!
By the way BigJ I think some of the best deer hunters I've ever met are gun hunters.
Thats the truth!!!
Great post to there Scot and Jim!!