I just read a really good article last night in Waterfowl & Retriever Magazine about this same issue. A world renoun trainer(forgot his name) was saying it all comes back to the force fetch. Which is what I have been working on with my 11 month old lab. I am not really sure if the setter world is the same or not. Does She deliever to hand? If so I would say FF would cure the problem. Where's Doc at her could answer this one..