Yeah, I'd love to have the Zeiss4-14x44, but I'm not going to throw down $800 on a scope. It's not necessary IMO. They are great scopes for sure, but I can kill a deer with a Burris or Nikon just as easy as I could with a Zeiss. I have a Leupold already on one of my .270's.I want to spend around $350 to $450 for a scope, and I believe the Burris FF 4-14x42and theNikon Monarch 4-16x42 are both good scopes for my price range. I just haven't decided on which one yet. The majority of you have said Nikon. I've looked at both, and to tell you the truth, there is very little difference in the two. Nikon is a popular brand, but Burris is much better than they were years ago. Thanks for all the replies. I am now more confused than I was before

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