Patterning them is huge, but out west some of the land is so vast that in the 5 years Iv' e hunted/scouted I' ve actually located ONE roost tree that one hen used that morning. The only way Iv' e been able to locate their roost is once it gets light and they start talking?

On another note, you really need to keep your head up, I' ll take my Dad' s and my Elk hunting history in to play. I' ve hunted them for the better part of 20 years combined with his 35-40 years. The tally TWO tags filled. That' s it, we know where they' re at but our luck has been so bad it' s almost laughable, would' ve had three but six road hunters stole a 6 point from me. Every year we go as much as posible, we get on them we see them we just haven' t been fortuneate enough yet to start to see fruits of our labor. We are by no means bad hunters or road hunters, I feel it' s just bad luck. I mean once we were contemplating which road to drive up to start our hunt, took the one I knew had elk around the area all year. We saw another truck pull up the other one and while we were getting geared up to hunt, bang... bang. The darn elk were standing in the other road that morning. BUt it' ll change I know that just will keep pressing.