I agree with Turkey Addict, trust me my friend it will change, this is my 5th year also. I went through the same senario for 4 years nothing could hear them but got nothing for it. Last year by the grace of God I bumped a jake and he gave me a shot.Wow I thought I was on the right track, it boosted my confidence and this year I bagged a 2 yr old, called him in and a jake the next weekend. Your luck will change like I told my Wife when see couldn' t catch a cold out fishing," Some times you just got to pay your dues" . Keep it up you' ll get there, I know I just got out of where your at mentally in this sport.

And on a second note I don' t know if I totallly agree with Spit n Drum, maybe in his neck of the woods they won' t come down hill, but out West they come up and down haven' t noticed them hanging up any more than any other birds when they run down? Maybe it' s just me?