I am either one of the smartest or dumbest on this subject.

Been there done that with all these scent control products.

After many observations from the same stands, same wind direction and temp/humidity, I am 99.99% sure you can't beat a deer's nose,regardless of what precautions you take or don't take. It can decipher too many different smells simultaneously for you to mask or eliminate or to reduce to any level that is going to make a difference.

The observations you have experienced where you thought your products worked were most likely attributed to wind thermals or young deer.

If all this stuff was anywhere close to its PERCEIVED effectiveness, the drug trade would be using it for trafficking and drug sniffing dogs would be a thing of the past.

Concentrate on when to and when not to hunt a particular stand and how to come and go with leaving as little scent on ground/forage and forget about all this other.JMHO