The numbers would be so much higher though if you counted gun bucks. OUr odds in NC are so low because we have a little over a month of bow season and almost 3 of gun season [:@]. You would think that they would eventually learn from other states, but I guess that wont happen. IF only we could give out two buck tags a year, and keep the doe limits, along with some antler restrictions and a shortened (by alot) gun season, then our state would produce more.