Also to just add what Ron posted: I hunt in SE. OH. and ron's right on the money about why EHD. hammered the herd in SW. PA., WVA. and SE. OH. is the fact that the 1st frost came in Nov. last year (atleast in SE. OH.) if the 1st frost would have been normal like in sept. the EHD. outbreak wouldnt have been near as bad. EHD. kills some of our deer every year, drought and a late frost just make's it alot worse. Pike