A lil creative photography however he was 24" wide had 12 scorable points. actually had to sticklers that almost developed into drops if given another year he might have. However, that wasnt in his cards. I'm gonna put huntingbry on a few good ones this year in Montco MD. Yea he was so tired from his walk from Ohio, he just fell dead under my tree....but shhhh don't tell anyone haha