I shot this new one with the Factory supplied rings once. It now wears Talleys. When I lived in Florida and the gun range was 1/2 to 3/4 mile from the house it used to take me 2 hours to get my guns sighted in . I would have to shoot real slow 3 shot groups and wait what seemed an hour for the barrel to cool down. If you get the right Kimber 84m that's nothing to sneeze at . I entered a raffle at our gun club I expect to get a new Kimber 84m in 7-08 this september
