oldelk, I didn't mean to sound so down on the Tikkas. They're o.k rifles. The first one I had was a T-3 Lite in 25-06. I loved the trigger, light weight, and it shot lights out. I did not like the safety, the cheap junk rings / screws provided or the cheap feeling (and sounding) stock. I had no issues with the plastic mag what-so-ever. My second Tikka was a laminated stainless version in 270 WSM. The stock was quite nice, but I still detested those cheap, soft rings and screws they provided. I knew the safety wasn't my cup of tea, but I could live with it if necessary. It would not shoot very well (for me or two friends) and the action / barrel area really heated up fast. I basically had to do 3 shot groups waiting about 30 minutes cool time in-between. The bolt would also lock up regularly. I took it back to the shop, and they couldn't get much out of it either. They offered to send it back, but I said screw it and went in another direction. I ended up trading it in on a Kimber 84M. Anyway, that's it in a nutshell.