Science also says that there is no god! One cannot say what something else goes through while dying, unless you have once been that creature. I was never talking specific about the physical pain that an animal goes through while dying there is a whole mental side to it as well. Are you guy's actually arguing that animal has no pain or fear when it is lying there dying? Bottom line is that every animal that experiences death while conscious goes through a very unpleasant experience. Davidmill your so clever how you took what i said and reversed back onto me. How in the world did you come up with that? AMAZING!