The area I hunt is sooo thick that it is hard to figure out where the deer are bedding and we dont have any agriculture in this part of the state, it makes patterning deer near impossible. I too have been really trying to improve on this subject but all the advice i have picked up seems useless in this type of terrain. There are no places to view them from without being on top of them, makes it hard to watch them all summer...I have resorted to trail cameras to try and help with this very thing....So, no I don't pattern deer but truly wishI could!!!!!