Well, I see the other thread was closed. At the risk of providing more raw meat for the pit bulls I have ONE other post on the subject. First, let me say that I in no way meant to imply that my heads will penetrate what I hear is the " shield" of a boar. From what I have heard in passing NO broadhead will penetrate the really big old boars. I could be wrong. And if you read my post you will see that my comment was that " they seemed to think that was a good test" . Again, I just recall hearing something about it in the course of the year somewhere, I didn' t question it further at the time except to hear them say the hogs were killed ok. Others here surprise me with their seemingly low opinion of dealers. Call me pollyanna but I am just the opposite. And I may be wrong, considering I have never hunted with a dealer, there are no archery shops here, and the shops an hour away probably couldn' t bring my name to mind. So there is no use in calling in the National Guard here on any dealers. But from what I have gathered in my limited experience, and being at trade shows and talking with them on the phone I personally have a high opinion of them and think they do an invaluable service for archery. Frankly when I heard the comment instead of immediately coming to a negative conclusion my reaction was to trust the source. I figured if a dealer did it nothing bad was occurring. I seem to recall hearing somewhere that the vitals of a hog are more behind the shoulder than with deer. Could easily be wrong, not at all sure. But I assumed, since I had heard you couldn' t penetrate an old boars shoulder, that they weren' t shooting old boars. That they must have been shooting younger hogs or sows with equipment that would penetrate the shoulder straight to the vitals and would be deadly, and a test to see whether there was complete arrow passthrough with a head or just the penetration with the head. Don' t know, didn' t get details. They could have been shooting old boars for all I know, but I doubt they were that stupid. And it could be criminal to shoot ANY hog in the shoulder. Don' t really know, never been, never seen one. I WOULD like to impart this wisdom to archers new to game hunting. If you are as ignorant as I am on a species such as hogs, bone up before you go, as I will certainly do before I go, if I ever get to dang it. To the website head honcho, if I have caused a problem here I apologize. And this IS my last post.