uncle matt I shot a nice 2 yr old on monday the 21 st had 2 with in 20 yrds shot what looked like the bigger of the 2 after the shot the other just stood there could have busted him to but only one tag we saw alot of birds worked one the day before got him to 40 yds but because of brush and ground cover couldn' t get a clear shot and he wouldn' t come any closer so I let him walk hoping to work him latter but I got this other bird first so this other guy got him at least it looked like the same bird mine was I' m guessing weight here but it felt as heavy as my MO. bird last yr at 22 1/2 10 in beard but only 3/4 in. spurs lots of birds saw abunch while there