Send me one of each to demo and I'll let you know. However I really like hunting in a boonie hat. The bill of a ballcap gets in the way of my recurves string. For hunting with the Marquis the ballcap you described sounds pretty good. I would like it with a buckle and to be a close to the scalp fit not a big ol truckers hat style. Embroidered logo and all cloth, no mesh. I don't like frayed brims, it will get there soon enough!