Dang White Raven, I am you and you are me, we are one. I' m touched that there are those who think that. I guess that anytime someone makes a first post of this thread, they think that it is you trying to pull a Zaft type scam or a defense. I' m not jealous and I know that your not either of the Zaft deer. But I am deeply offended at his attempt at pulling a scam on the hunting world. It' s still just too bad that he can still make $$$ on it just by having the rack. But then of course now he is an expert deer hunter who can find world class already dead deer with nothing but a head left. Some people think that he really shot this deer, how sad. Hopefully soon he will be exposed for the bogus crap he is trying to pull and we can just say told you so and move on to real hunting efforts and stories. Give em what for WR and don' t let em get you down. If this thread is so offensive to some why do they continue to read it and post to it? Hmmmmmmmm, interesting, veeerrry interesting!!!. Where does the obsession really lie.