I finally got one. Not the double beard that I was after but it is a great turkey. It had an 12 1/4 inch beard. Not as heavy as I hoped but it still weighed a little over 17 pounds and it had 1 3/8 inch spurs. It is a great bird and I will fill ya' ll in with the story when I have a little more time, I have got to go clean and cook him! The pics wont turn out good but oh well, I only had my cheapo camera and no-one to take the pics.