Robert, a great site to research on the wsm line is [link]http://www.shortmags.org/shortmags/[/link] loads of hunters here sharing knowledge and experience with the 3 wsm' s. I picked up a box of 130gr 270 wsm for 25$ at my local wal-mart. I havent got to shoot my gun yet, cant get to the range till after turkey season (May 6th) sense its located on a wma where hunting is going on.