Thanks Charlie for the update. My only involvement with the Nature Conservation is on a nice piece of turkey/ deer habitat in Southern Vt. I had hunted the land for years and after the NC bought it they had so many regulations that I stopped going. They gave out a number of permits but they had to be applied for every year and I found the area more crowded than when it was in state and private hands. I had the feeling that they only allowed limited hunting for turkey only for a while to ease into the picture and expect one of these days to see no hunting allowed period. They aren't a hunting organization they are tree huggers.