davidmil you and I do agree on this one!!! I rarely hang a stand, I use my climber 95% of the time. I don't use scent lock, I don't have one of them fancy wrist grunt calls, I don't have a trail camera, I don't even have Binos!! I still use a single waist safety strap!!! Not smart!!! I do shoot a new bow and a release but not a fancy one.