I have some slick trick 100's standard (thanks MeanV) and they fly great out to 50 yds (as far as I have shot them). I got them to use on groundhogs and foxes but I am having a helluva time finding the time to hunt these critters right now . For instance, my plan was to go after fox tonight but I went to my daughter's horse riding lesson to take pictures of her riding on the beach for the first time. LOL Well, at least those memories will be better than fox hunting memories but...............