John .... I am a converted man! Ihate it when I can't wriggle out of reason [&o]. I wouldn't touch that antler, nor would I get the deer ......... now. I just can't justify tromping on someone else's rights to getwhat I want ...... I would go and tell the guy that, and hope that maybe some sense would get in him ....

as far as the Avatar ..... I've never looked so good