Guys I guess it is easier for me to think what I want to say but not type it. I have been on other sites and I see these 15/16/17 year old kids basicly talking about 150 class bucks like water. IE. I sawa 150 today or I haven't killed a buck with my bow yet but I am holding out for a 145 or bigger. I don't even know if they know what a 145 or 150 looks like it is only because video's and guys on sites talk about 150's so much that now 120 and 130 is a thing of the past. I know I use it to describe my own deer but these guys are just talking and it bothers me that maybe we are setting our selfs up for to take a fall because we all use numbers to much!! Does that make any sence??