I understand that Jeff but what happened in the last 10 years to make a 120-130 that drove us all crazy when the Duries first came out to be just a spike horn now a days!! Why can't we just talk about the big buck we took after scouting him and set or goal as him or nothing?? Or say the spot looked classic and this big ole boy came right from where I planned and he made me feel good so I shot him ECT. I know we all use numbers to make it easier to get our points across of what we shot or saw but it's kinda like crime now a days. Oh the guy was only shot in the head not shot and cut up and dumped all over the city, It is like we are just getting so used to talking about 150 that we think they grow on trees and everyone should be shooting one!!Walt