I didn't say I didn't have goals or standards, but they're all mine. I don't try to impose them on anyone else and don't really feel I have to tell everyone what they are. I don't want somenewbie thinking just because I've killed a lot of nice deer he has to do it my way to live up to my standards. My standards for everyone else is Just DoIt. I don't care what your standards are and will congradulate anyone that shoots something he felt like shooting. I'll laugh and joke with him and really tell him I'm happy as all get out for him. The only exceptions are when hunting someone elses land or club or property. I ask what the rules of engagement are. If someone says 8 point or better or width or whatever, I live by his rules. Whenever someone tells me shoot whatever you want I pry and dig to get a feel for what they'd shoot. I don't want to be the guy to bring in something that none of the club members would shoot. My standards vary with local. When I go to Ohio I let a lot of bucks walk that would be dead at home because I know the potential of both areas.