I find killer deals in the offseason for hang ons....now they aren't the top of the line, but between walmart, kmartand dick's sporting goods, i have caught a few deals. The best being 3 baby gorilla stands for 6 bucks each at kmart. I thought it was a mistake...but the manager said last year's model 90 percent off.....i made sure he checked the back as well. There were some nice ones this past year at walmart for 50 percent off...i just wish i had bought them now with the addition of the new land that I have to hunt. I will end up watching at Dick's for a 20 or 30 percent deal that they will have closer to the season. All of these stands that I mentioned aren't ideal for all day sits, but they are safe and they work. And now that you mention it the boating is fine

and so are the small mouths