DonDeere, I' m just a bowhunter by choice, I shoot 3-D for the sport and friendship of individuals like those on this forum, if my health is ok I hope to shoot Bedford for the first time and I plan to take the trip to Ohio in July, I might cross your path but certainly not in your class as I said, I' m a hunter. Keep shootin them they will go down, Rhiehart or McKenzie.