This is a great thread. When Matt told me what Rick James was getting with his (super turkey snyper set-up)[8D] I just about went with Matt to get the same thing. I mean Geez, how can you argue with that.I thought RJ was doing over kill but after seeing what itdoes to a target and to a bird (courtesty of Matt's video) WOW. what performance. It seems almost unfair but those little jelly heads deserve it soI stuck with my trust 1187 and jelly head tube. with #5 1 7/8 oz. and went and bought a new kimbe rpistol