Mark, DR. Samual and DR. Alt both knew before this season started what the result' s were going to be!! Just like myself and many other' s. Before my friend' s and I started passing up smaller buck' s we shot the first buck we saw, and out of 105, 1.5 year olds buck' s that we harvested since the early 1980' s only 23% would not have been legal under our current AR Guidelines. So if I knew what the out come was going to be and my friend' s knew what the out come was going to be, DR. Dave who is one of the leading Biologist' s in the country and his pupil DR. Alt knew what the outcome was going to be!!! And as you know we only saved an additional 16% of our buck' s in the majority of the state that has a 3pt. to a side AR. Pike