im trying to understang what your saying martin i hope im not being a pain but your saying that im walking in normal close the deer will smell me and hear me and will be at escaping my presence soon and with less alarm then if i am sneaking trying not to break a twig in scent free stuff then i SHOULD be more apt to getting closer to them thus if they figure out or when they figure out i could a threat they will be running with great alarm and thus not as apt to come back to that same spot as usual again i may seem like a dumby but i am trying to learn all i can to be more successful