Here is a good example of a fully mature deer. He was 7 or 8 years old when I got this picture.I got pictures of himfor several years. His rack was not huge but had a lot of mass. We found him locked up with another buck and both went in the low 150's gross. I had named this deer 'Bear' because both of his eartips had frozen off and he had small round ears like a bear. I never got to see this deer in the daylight and all pictures of him were at night. The older they get, the more nocturnal they become regardless of pressure.