The woods I hunt is my dads woods. Its 160 acres of ag and wooded land, half in half. Back when I was a kid 17 or so years ago this woods was on fire come mid October. It would be no surprise to find 100+ scrapes in the woods. Lots of 6 to 8 inch rubs also. We even had a few 12"+ trees getting hit for a few years. It would literally stink and smell like buck piss when you walked in the woods, It was awesome! A year or so later they had a 3rd gun season, they said not enough deer were shot the previous 2 weekends so they opened another weekend for the slug hunters in my zone. It sounded like WWIII going on. I was steaming being I thought it was a bad idea to begin with. That next spring we found over 100 dead deer within a mile of where we do our hunting. 90% of the deer were all wounds, meaning gut shots, etc. We found 2 140" bucks dead and a pile of 1.5 olds also. This was back in 1991 I believe and now finally the last few years its starting to show some sign of what it use to be like back in the late 80's early 90's. The wonderful Minnesota DNR doesn't have a clue in what they are doing, all they care about is revenue! Minnesota was one of the top states for B&C bucks, reasons like I just explained are reasons its going down hill and will keep going down hill.[:@]