this was my first turkey. i got it during youth season. it is a 18 lbs jake.i never realy had to call to get it in, i watched it one other jake and like 3 or 4 hens roost the night before. one hen came into the deces and attacked one of the deces. my cousin was calling for me and was "Yelling" at it lol. the bird andother jakecame right in from the roost.i got it at 7 am.