I bought a ladder stand when I first joined the military. This was the first store bought stand I had ever hunted out of. Being in the military, I did not have a bunch of money, I think I paid $75.00 for it. It was maybe, MAYBE 10ft tall and the platform was like 18"x18" with no seat. I think it was made by API, no really sure, that was a long time ago. Needless to say, after the third of fourth time I fell out of it, I busted it up in a bunch of pieces. I am sure it is still laying in the woods somewhere in the U.P of Michigan.